Module 5

Coaching with the Client’s Self-Doubt Story

Coaching with the Client’s Self-Doubt Story

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Meaning-Making Map
The Belief Buster
Experiments!
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Module Five Discussions

Self-belief Coaches:

The discussion forum is where you can ask questions, share your thoughts, learnings, confusion and breakthroughs about this Module.

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Anka
3 years ago

Hi Sas,
When will the call recordings for module 5 will be up. They would be so helpful to prepare for the practice calls we have?!
Thank you,
Anka

Sal Robertson
3 years ago

I just wanted to take a moment to thank Scott, Colette and Jane for showing up so honestly and with such vulnerability as clients in the Tuesday calls and the study group today. As Jane said to Scott, I felt honored to witness you sharing your protective beliefs. I got some aha moments from all 3 of your sessions so thank you for sharing your lives with us.

Scott All contacts
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Sal Robertson

Thank you, Sal! That is so kind. It’s been wonderful to have you in the calls. And a big thank you to Jane for being such a ready and willing coachee.

Loved our juicy group call today – such great discussions!

Hannah
3 years ago

Hi friends! I wanted to share an analogy I’m finding useful for the ‘thin stories’. I’m imagining it like a two dimensional stick drawing and we’re wanting to make it more 3D and detailed with colours and shadows

Scott All contacts
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3 years ago
Reply to  Hannah

Hi Hannah – Yes, it really does feel like we’re helping our clients to create three dimensionality to their stories and lived experience! I love that analogy! Depth perception is a wonderful thing 🙂

Vicky Shilling
3 years ago

What happens if your client’s experiment goes ‘wrong’?

For example I was running a group challenge last week and we were discussing pricing for people’s offers (they’re a mix of nutritionists, health coaches, PTs etc.).

A lot of their beliefs are things like:
If I put my prices up, people won’t buy (I’ll be rejected)
If my prices increase I will be judged
If my prices are higher then I’ll make even less money and my business will fail

What is a good experiment to test out some alternative beliefs here?
Is the data collected always how you feel? (All your examples were in the workbook. And that does make sense because otherwise the data in this instance is “I’ll put my price up and then test if people buy it or not.” And that could backfire…?!)
What are good alternative beliefs to these?! Because everyone will say to me that ultimately it comes back to whether people buy it or not. And that’s out of their control.

Help!

Sas Petherick
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Vicky Shilling

Hey Vicky – great question!

The thing to pay attention to here is the resistance the client feels to the experiment.

I would stay away from experiments that are too close to the actual cause of self-doubt – as you say that is highly likely to backfire, and it’s totally out of their control.

Some options for healthy beliefs around pricing:
– I create value for my clients
– Its safe for me to let clients pay me
– There is no ‘perfect price’
– Clients get the best results when they work with me in a packaged offer (not paying by the hr)

Some options for small, safe, doable experiments:
– listing all the practitioners the client has invested in and reflecting on how they felt about the price they paid
– tuning in to their body compass for price setting (from Self-trust tools!)
– writing a script for how they might communicate price increases
– creating a new offer at a higher price and testing the water with existing clients

Let me know how this lands Vicky!

Vicky Shilling
2 years ago
Reply to  Sas Petherick

Thank you Sas! It’s taken me ages to reply to this, but just to say your response has been in my inbox and I’ve been referring to it a lot to see how you’re able to create experiments that are smaller and easier for clients to test. Committed to learning how to do this myself now!

Sas Petherick
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Vicky Shilling

I’m so glad this helps 🙂

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Reflecting on Module 5

Self-belief Coaches!

Part of the process of integrating learning is about reflecting on what has changed for you.

  • How do you see these tools fitting into your practice?  What would be possible for your clients now that you have tools to help them transform their relationship with their self-doubt stories? 
  • In exploring and using these tools, what have you uncovered?  What flowed and what felt unpracticed or unclear?

Please share your thoughts in the discussion!

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9 Comments
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Anka
3 years ago

Hi Sas,
When will the call recordings for module 5 will be up. They would be so helpful to prepare for the practice calls we have?!
Thank you,
Anka

Sal Robertson
3 years ago

I just wanted to take a moment to thank Scott, Colette and Jane for showing up so honestly and with such vulnerability as clients in the Tuesday calls and the study group today. As Jane said to Scott, I felt honored to witness you sharing your protective beliefs. I got some aha moments from all 3 of your sessions so thank you for sharing your lives with us.

Scott All contacts
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Sal Robertson

Thank you, Sal! That is so kind. It’s been wonderful to have you in the calls. And a big thank you to Jane for being such a ready and willing coachee.

Loved our juicy group call today – such great discussions!

Hannah
3 years ago

Hi friends! I wanted to share an analogy I’m finding useful for the ‘thin stories’. I’m imagining it like a two dimensional stick drawing and we’re wanting to make it more 3D and detailed with colours and shadows

Scott All contacts
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Hannah

Hi Hannah – Yes, it really does feel like we’re helping our clients to create three dimensionality to their stories and lived experience! I love that analogy! Depth perception is a wonderful thing 🙂

Vicky Shilling
3 years ago

What happens if your client’s experiment goes ‘wrong’?

For example I was running a group challenge last week and we were discussing pricing for people’s offers (they’re a mix of nutritionists, health coaches, PTs etc.).

A lot of their beliefs are things like:
If I put my prices up, people won’t buy (I’ll be rejected)
If my prices increase I will be judged
If my prices are higher then I’ll make even less money and my business will fail

What is a good experiment to test out some alternative beliefs here?
Is the data collected always how you feel? (All your examples were in the workbook. And that does make sense because otherwise the data in this instance is “I’ll put my price up and then test if people buy it or not.” And that could backfire…?!)
What are good alternative beliefs to these?! Because everyone will say to me that ultimately it comes back to whether people buy it or not. And that’s out of their control.

Help!

Sas Petherick
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Vicky Shilling

Hey Vicky – great question!

The thing to pay attention to here is the resistance the client feels to the experiment.

I would stay away from experiments that are too close to the actual cause of self-doubt – as you say that is highly likely to backfire, and it’s totally out of their control.

Some options for healthy beliefs around pricing:
– I create value for my clients
– Its safe for me to let clients pay me
– There is no ‘perfect price’
– Clients get the best results when they work with me in a packaged offer (not paying by the hr)

Some options for small, safe, doable experiments:
– listing all the practitioners the client has invested in and reflecting on how they felt about the price they paid
– tuning in to their body compass for price setting (from Self-trust tools!)
– writing a script for how they might communicate price increases
– creating a new offer at a higher price and testing the water with existing clients

Let me know how this lands Vicky!

Vicky Shilling
2 years ago
Reply to  Sas Petherick

Thank you Sas! It’s taken me ages to reply to this, but just to say your response has been in my inbox and I’ve been referring to it a lot to see how you’re able to create experiments that are smaller and easier for clients to test. Committed to learning how to do this myself now!

Sas Petherick
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Vicky Shilling

I’m so glad this helps 🙂